4 June 2026

Recording: Getting Returns from AI

Ask Me Anything - Getting real returns from AI - First Focus

AI in your business:
your questions answered

If your business is trying to get a grip on AI, this is worth an hour of your time. First Focus AI Strategy Lead Jack Behrns sat down to answer 70+ questions from real Australian and New Zealand business owners and operators. No buzzwords, no vendor pitches. Just honest answers about what works, what does not, and where to start.

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Jack Behrns
AI Strategy Lead, First Focus
1 hr 8 min · Free to watch

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What’s covered

  • 00:00
    Welcome and session overview
  • 01:04
    How First Focus uses AI internally, including the hackathons and ChatGPT Enterprise rollout
  • 03:40
    What an AI Strategy Lead actually does
  • 07:44
    Why the traditional MSP model is no longer enough, and what the new one looks like
  • 13:35
    What every business should be doing right now to prepare for AI
  • 15:17
    Data governance explained in plain English
  • 18:20
    The cybersecurity baseline your business needs before adopting AI
  • 20:48
    Shadow AI: why blocking tools often makes the risk worse
  • 24:14
    Reducing AI tool sprawl across your business
  • 32:37
    Measuring ROI: the 3x in 12 months target and how to get there
  • 39:32
    Building an internal AI policy that people will actually follow
  • 43:28
    High-impact AI use cases: knowledge bots, retail assistants, and process automation
  • 53:56
    AI agents and automation: what is real and what is hype
  • 1:04:01
    ChatGPT vs Copilot vs Claude: which platform is right for most SMBs?

“Any organisation that doesn’t have an AI strategy deployed to their staff, I’m yet to find one where staff are not using AI anyway. That lack of visibility is the highest risk in the environment.”

Jack Behrns, AI Strategy Lead at First Focus

 

Seven things worth taking away

01

Shadow AI is already in your business. Giving staff a sanctioned tool reduces risk more effectively than blocking access.

02

Start with data governance. Know what information you own, where it lives, and who can access it before connecting AI to anything.

03

Target 3x ROI within 12 months from each AI initiative. If it is not covering its costs in six months, move on to another use case.

04

The most universal use case: an AI assistant connected to your internal knowledge base. It handles questions, speeds up onboarding, and scales as you grow.

05

Find your AI champions. The people already experimenting in their own time are the ones who will drive adoption across the rest of the business.

06

For most SMBs, Copilot is not the right call. ChatGPT Teams or a similar managed setup gives comparable security with far better usability.

07

Quick wins first. Prove value with something small and iterative before committing budget and attention to a larger initiative. Change fatigue is real, make people’s lives easier before asking them to learn more.

About the guest

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Jack Behrns

AI Strategy Lead · First Focus

Jack came from an account management and service delivery background before stepping into the AI strategy role at First Focus. His work covers internal AI adoption, tooling decisions, and helping clients design and implement their own AI roadmaps.

Day to day, that means running adoption workshops, identifying AI champions inside client organisations, measuring ROI on initiatives, and working out when to keep going and when to cut something loose. He is also the person behind First Focus’s internal AI assistant Sam, and the CORE product that brings managed AI to client environments.

Want to talk about what AI could do for your business? Get in touch with First Focus.

Ready to Put AI into Practice?

AI implementation, automation, and data governance are at the centre of CORE, our managed services model built for businesses that need more than traditional IT support. If you want to talk through what Jack covered and how it applies to your business, book a one-on-one session with him.

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